
Monthly Articles02 Jun 2009
A Thorn By Any Other Name
![]() We’re all familiar with the famous quote, “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” It originated in the play “Romeo and Juliet,” written by William Shakespeare. Reader Comments
First of all, I'd like to say that congratulations are in order for Nick.. because whether you agree with him or not... his column consistently gets the most response of any other on this website. The mark of a good writer is making people think. The mark of an excellent writer is making people respond.
First, I cannot believe anyone cannot see the "humor" and the "tongue-in-cheek" attitude behind the red suits comment. Secondly, I think that most of the comments that disagree with him are kind of missing his point. Just because a person doesn't WANT SGM to return to the days of the red suits doesn't mean that Nick is incorrect when he reminds us that the reason there IS a form of music called SGM is because there was a day of red suits and short haircuts. I think his point is that the music form that is referred to as "Southern Gospel Music" was started as a quartet style of music. This, in his opinion, is what the pure form of Southern Gospel Music. He is entitled to his opinion.. and is simply expressing it in HIS column. Secondly..he LOVES that kind of music. He loves the Quartet music. And in HIS OPINION the reason it is the industry is dying is NOT BECAUSE it doesn't appeal to a general audience, but because the audience is becoming confused because this art form is being "watered down" by groups that are not Southern Gospel. And he is frustrated to see other forms of music coming in to the field of SGM and "calling itself" Southern Gospel.. when in reality it is not Southern Gospel. He seems to feel that the quartet music - the music that STARTED SGM - is good enough music to sustain an industry if it was being done in it's purest form. While younger people may enjoy the various forms of music they are hearing at SGM venues....it doesn't mean that Nick is incorrect when he says that SGM in it's PURE form is quartet music. The industry that exists that supports this very website was created by the Red Suits. Personally, SGM is not my favorite music style.. but I understand his point is that it is such a UNIQUE style of music that for that reason alone it should be carefully preserved. One thing is obvious about him - he loves SGM and wants to be sure it's here for future generations. You can like the newer music. He prefers it the way it was and thinks it's good enough music to stand on it's own merit. This is his opinion and I applaud him for stating it.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/04/2009
I find myself agreeing with both sides of this issue to a certian degree. Meaning, I for one love the sounds that SG music has to offer with it's vocal arrangements as well as melodic structure however, as an evangelist/artist myself I see alot of young people throughout the course of the year and I have ask them this question. What is it that you like and dislike about SG music? And almost always you will hear them respond like this....well the thing I like about it is seeing a guy that sings like a woman and a man that can rumble my chest cavity is pretty cool but, the music itself seems dated for young people and doesn't really appeal to our generation any more.(the ages are between 15 and 21) So I think that the industry as a whole has to do something to appeal to not only people like us that love this music but also to the generation that will carry on long after we are all dead and gone.So if you have to change your look a little I think that's fine as long as you never lose your class. Simply put,that is one of the foundations this great music was built upon CLASS..just my opinion from a little guys point of view.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/04/2009
The things that seemed to set Southern Gospel Music apart in its Glory Years were far more than appearance. They included remarkable harmonies, quality voices, wonderful arrangements, obvious rehearsal and professionalism. By the way, it was Southern but NOT Country. These groups did not have to adapt to any other sound or take a backseat to any other performers.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/05/2009
I dont think Nick said anything about beards. Good thing because I've seen some full bearded pictures of Nick from the past & his outfit was pretty hip too.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/05/2009
I'm with Nick on this one all the way! Perhaps there is an "age thing" going on here with our preferences? Some of my favorite groups are -- THE DOVE BROTHERS, BOOTH BROTHERS, DIXIE MELODY BOYS, THE HOPPERS. To me, these groups have the sound, the look, and the passion for the message of their ministry. The message unfortunately is too often forgotten by some wannabees who think the "show" is about them in their American Idol mentality. [I watched the show once and that was enough for me]. I personally believe that when we have an opportunity to minister for our Lord, and call ourself a southern gospel music artist -- we need to sing our very best, play musical instruments [our very best], and look the very best we can, in representing the King of Kings. As has been stated at other times by other people -- I don't want to go to a gospel concert to look at someone who appears to have slept in their clothes for a week and are missing 5 buttons on their shirt/blouse. Maybe I'm getting old, but I think I may be in some good company also? I could say a lot more here but the paranoia in me says the hate mail of other opinions is on it's way; but that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/05/2009
As was stated by a previous post "We can't live in the past" -- this IS true. As I made my post earlier, I did not intend to suggest that idea. However, [in my opinion] there are some things I WISH could be ABSOLUTES. The FREEMANS recorded a song years ago called "GOING BACK" [great song].
This song talks about "going back to the absolutes". Most all of us agree that the message of the cross should never be changed, though the method of delivering the message will change. Jerry Kirksey wrote an article a few years ago concerning sgm integrity and message. The point I got from that article was -- southern gospel needs to keep it's identity! I for one am sick to death of hearing "souther gospel music is dying". Having made those couple comments, all I'm saying is -- I think SGM should have some ABSOLUTES --- STOP TRYING SO HARD TO COPY COUNTRY, CONTEMPORARY, HIP HOP, RAP [Satanic], etc. Why can't we have our own brand that is easily identified as SOUTHERN GOSPLE MUSIC. What's wrong with that ABSOLUTE? I'm going to do my best to sing what can readily be understood as southern gospel -- not a mix of variations of music. I guess I'm a "die-hard" southern gospel music person, and that's my abolute. Everyone else can have their opinion and their absolutes.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/05/2009
Hey I must say I usually like Nicks' articles too, but I must disagree with his opinion on this one. There is no way the 13 to 21 year old generation of today as a whole will be attracted to barber shop style singing. However they love the country style and there is nothing wrong with incorporating that into today's southern gospel genre. By the way if we take a look back into the days of old to some groups such as J.D. Sumner we may find that they were progressive in their day. Did'nt J.D. sing back up for Elvis Presley? If I'm not mistaken Elvis was a little progressive in his time wasn't he? Oh and by the way Elvis was singing Rock-n-Roll with J.D. as his back up. We need a youthful sound in order for this industry to continue. We need our young people to get involved with southern gospel music. We need quality groups recording and being promoted, rather than every mom and pop recording company signing groups that cannot sing their way out of wet paper bags. We need to incoporate the old and the new without loosing what southern gospel is known for " THE MESSAGE"! Something that contemporary music is lacking. Well that's my 2 cents worth. Wow, I was able to stretch my pennies huh?
Commented by Phillip English On 06/05/2009
"Many times the sloppy ones write sloppy songs which are songs that rhyme." Interesting logic. Flawed, but interesting.
Commented by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) On 06/05/2009
First of all, proving my point in that Nick's articles make people think and speak. Lots of posts.
Some of the reasoning here is so flawed, in my humble opinion. Where is it written that 13-21 year olds are the ones who must dictate what is called SGM? There's nothing wrong with wanting to appeal to and minister to teenagers??? But why do we have to CHANGE Southern Gospel Music's UNIQUE sound in order to do so. It may be true that SGM and quartet singing may not appeal to a WIDE audience of teennagers.. but.. dare I say it, "So what?" All over the world every other type of music keeps itself PURE to it's own art form - all except SGM. Do you think up and coming concert pianists refuse to play MOZART and BEETHOVEN because it will not appeal to 13-21 year olds? Where would classical music be today if it adopted the "DEAR GOD MAKE SURE THE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE OUR MUSIC" mantra? Is it only me who gets what Nick is saying??? Evidently.. yes. He's saying, "we are going to lose this style of music if we keep allowing what is NOT southern gospel to be called southern gospel." He isn't ant-anything, but pro SGM. Further more, the groups he mentioned were so EXCELLENT - now and in the past - that they appealed to a vast audience... Ed Sullivan show, etc. And one more furthermore.. groups nowadays who ARE singing the classical SGM are not fading away, but are singing to HEALTHY sized audiences. SOME young people will like SGM.. and they WILL carry on the art form after people like Nick are gone... unless.. of course.. the whole style of music called Southern Gospel disappears..
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