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Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?

Here I am again - sitting here with so many things - important topics - vying for text space. So many friends and associates have called to make suggestions.  It boils down to this: of all the things I want to say (or other people want me to say), the thing that really has my attention today is what I consider the worst thing in our business.  Let's forget the radio promotions, bad projects, bad singing, fly-by-night labels, and number one songs.  There's a bigger problem. 


The lack of unity in the industry.  That's the worst thing in our business, friends.

 

I have watched jealousy and control cause both artists and industry people to lose thousands of dollars - not to mention respect - on which there is no price.  I have watched folks just about turn green at the sight of who was on the cover of a magazine, who had the best ad, who got the highest song, who got to sing first, and who has the nicest bus. And within the industry circles, I have seen labels fight to keep names off artwork, ads, billboards and other industry press items.  In recording circles I have seen them threatening an artist, erase their masters, drop them from labels, black list them and totally ruin their name and credibility.

 

Why? Just to try and control the pie. (We will talk more about pie in a bit.) But, some of the folks in our industry are breeding this kind of competitive and controlling spirit. They are all but encouraging people to be competitive to the point of nearly pitting them against each other.

 

Now, on to the pie. Picture Southern Gospel music as an All American apple pie. The table is set. We have a pie in the middle of the table, 12 chairs, 12 forks and 12 ideas. Within this circle are very greedy, controlling and vicious players. Their thoughts are, we only have 12 slices, we can only feed so many, very shortly - goes the thinking - we're gonna get powerful hungry. So in their greed, they slide their chairs closer, blocking anyone from entering this last supper of the polyester kings. Anyone steps in to even smell that pie, you may get a boot to the shin, a fork to the hand, or more likely, a whispered rumor to destroy your credibility.

 

Come eat some of this pie at my house.  Here's how we would set it. First we make the table a buffet. We look past this table, 12 chairs, 12 forks and pie being the only source of survival. We don't shut others out because our pie is too small. No. We invite them to come join us, and bring another pie, or - hey, stop at KFC on your way over, would you? More thoughts, music, ideas, abilities - a whole new menu, in fact.  That table?  Shoot, let's sit on the ground. One thing about the ground. There's plenty of it. Now, we are on open land. We have many hands willing to increase the food, increase the base, and expand Southern Gospel music. 


Our sales, radio and circulation are all dying for a reason. You can only sell so many times to the same customer. Any business can stay afloat as long as they keep expenses down and maintain their client list. The problem is the expenses are not coming down in Southern Gospel music. Fuel is higher, artists are begging for dates, labels are starving for capital, and radio needs advertisers and listeners. Again, the problem is back to the pie. Once something is eaten, it's gone. FOREVER. The only solution is to bake another. But, when doing so you need to plan outside the box. Embrace the new labels, artists and fans. If this is handled properly, you bring in new churches, new fans and new talent.


The major labels need to look past the recoupment stage of a project. They need to advertise in other areas, solicit airplay in new markets, and push booking agents to drive their artists into new territory. We have killed the South. If Southern Gospel music were an apple tree, not only is the fruit gone, the leaves, branches and the roots are history. Everyone is playing ball in the same fields, the same stations, same churches, the same ads, same budgets, same writers and producers. If you have played the game for more than a few years, and you're still begging for dates, selling a few thousand CDs, and trying to break a hit record - change now.


I know of only a handful of Southern Gospel artists financially surviving. Why? They are playing a system that plays them. Don't be afraid to cross the boundaries and step outside in the rain. We are made up of mostly water. No one ever accomplished great things without creating new things, new thoughts, new ground. You have to decide if you are trying to win a popularity contest or win results. Are you trying to make it on what you have or what people say you can have? So with that said - move outside your circles.


Listen to your own convictions, not the industry's.




Rick Hendrix
http://www.rickhendrix.com

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Author: RickBHendrix | Author's Website: http://www.rickhendrix.com
Written: 04/30/2005 | Category: Monthly ArticlesLeave No Stone Unturned Comments: 209
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  1.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    Wow- glad to see you back. VERY true. If people spent as much time praying and uplifting each other, as they do segregating one another.What an amazing thing Christianity could be. I love your new web site Rick.

    Ole Brother Dale

  2.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    Rick,
    Thanks for having the courage to say what most would'nt. Perfect commentary...we do need to take a stand, doing our own thing and not worrying about competition. Do the best with what you have and let God take care of the rest. I love the strategy of moving out of the south and seeking new venues. Were ready, let's do it.....
    J P

  3.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    Good commentary Rick: I sang with a group that did just what you talked about in your article. We carved our own niche without the help of your stated "Pie" movers and shakers. It was obvious that we were not going to be in on sharing the "Pie" so we made our own way, opening up new territories and venues. Our date book was never empty, we made a nice living for our families, travled the world and did not have to put up with the jealousies and nit picking and downright exclusion from the so called "Industry" masquerading as ministry. What a relief it was to not have to depend on anyone but God for our living and ministry. Our group retired and moved on to other ministries, and have just now begun a new chapter with the original members of our group. Just by word of mouth the phone is ringing and we cannot fulfill all the dates that are coming in. All without the help of the gospel magazines, top 100 song charts, conventions, praise gatherings or whatever. It can be done so I urge those of you who want to get off of the gerbil ferris wheel that gets you no where, and into doing what God wants you to do, to do so now. What are you waiting for?

    Duane Nicholson

    Duane Nicholson

  4.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    We tried it too. That upper chef of the pie wouldnt let us in. We need people like Rick Hendrix to help us get in -:-)

    You wanna sign us up-LOL

    Bob

  5.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    Another excellent article. Can't wait to read your next one.

  6.    Justin Endicott ~ 05/01/2005

    Very needed article. I hope everyone reads this.

  7.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/01/2005

    Right on. I would love to name these "polyester kings" LOL That was great.

    Lara

  8.    Betty Tilley ~ 05/01/2005

    Great Article! I agree with Dale. People need to uplift one another instead of trying to bring christians down. You wonder who really lives in their heart. I am a fairly new artist to the industry and it has been hard for me to be welcomed in this Southern Gospel Radio world. It is about Jesus and not about us. We need to be running our businesses and ministries for Jesus and not for ourselves. God bless you and thank you for all you do for the Lord.

  9.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    Everything is controlled and messy anymore. Even my home church. :-(
    Joy

  10.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    Great article Rick. Duane Nicholson and the Couriers not only carved out their own niche, they gave a helping hand to many groups that were just starting out. We need more groups that are out a regular basis to give a heloing hand to lessor known groups not the back of the hand.

  11.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    Right on- I think the Christian music world is mean. I have sensed a terrible oppression for some time now.Some of these folks need to get saved!!!

    Perry

  12.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    I thought it was only bad at the semi-pro level.
    Helping out other area groups and never getting help back almost bankrupted my group. Now we are trusting in God to handle our ministry. Gone are the days of booking other groups at our own promoted singings and referring dates to other groups etc. It's because of the "MY PIE" attitude that we are forced to do business this way. It's sad.

  13.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    Great article Rick. Of course the only answer to this problem is for it to start with "me". It needs to start with "me", no matter what others in the industry are doing, and no matter what level they are at are doing it.

  14.    Jamie Carter ~ 05/02/2005

    I love the article. As an "unknown" I can only see the table through a window and I can't even smell the aroma.....and when I get the courage to take a step in...I get scared of the atmosphere....but I hate to say this...but there is a BIG fee to walk through the door...and some hold your dreams over your head and hold out their hand and ask for major money...like 25,000.00 for a 10 track project! How are the "unknowns" suppose to break into this without having a "rich uncle"? and then we are suppose to hand it over and not worry about what is going to happen. I have seen so many people get financially ruined by following a dream? That is my take....But Rick, with my personal experience with you and Shane...you are always waiting to help...even us unknowns that are broke LOL~ to that I am grateful it gives me HOPE!

  15.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    Rick,

    It's very disappointing to hear about the nasty side of the business. Doesn't it all boil down to the level of maturity in Christ of how we treat each other? Being jealous, coveting, gossiping and stabbing someone in the back just to try to get ahead are signs of someone who is very immature and probably not walking very close to the Lord according to their fruits. It's unfortunate that people can get to the top in our industry who are like that, but then again, we don't live in a perfect world and people sin. Somehow, we have to raise the standard, beginning with ourselves. My two cents. Thanks for your courage in pointing out areas we need to address, Rick.

  16.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    I have seen it in our ministry.We spent 40,000 with a record label. We were promised the world.The major artist shut us out of their circles, the magazine refused articles and press, the radio stations didnt give us airtime. If the label new this ahead of time.WHY DID THEY TAKE OUR MONEY???

    Used and bruised~
    Momma Kirkland

  17.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    AMEN !!! Thank God for someone with enough courage to say what a lot of people are thinking. I have been involved in part time groups for almost 40 years and I have worked as a southern gospel DJ for about the same length of time. And, I'm so thankful that I can count several full time group members as friends. I've seen southern gospel music from the point of view of the promoter, the artist, the pastor, the DJ and the fan. It's been my expenience that "ministry" has given way to "the business" and as a result this music we love so much has lost its influence in many areas. What we are doing is speaking so loudly folks can't hear what we are saying.

  18.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/02/2005

    I voiced my opinions on here before. I have been to Nashville or (Cashville). I can tell you right now. The only people interested in your career is YOU. They are after the money. We decided to record this project at home. We spent 3,000 dollars verses 15,000/20,000, we had our CDs produced for .52 each/verses 2.90/ we ran our own ads without a surcharge of 200.00. And they do treat you like junk in the industry. They will push you out of their clicks. Or pie. The artist and labels wanna be treated like royalty. And truth be known. They aren't any bigger than us. Nobody really sales anymore. No one really draws crowds. Us little unknown, worthless, opening acts, pay their bills for the big budget albums.

    Renee

  19.    Alicia Morris ~ 05/03/2005

    Rick, thanks for another great article. They're always right on the mark. I think we all need to be challenged to step out of this comfort zone and see the bigger world that's out there.

    Peter would never have walked on the water if he didn't get out of the boat. I don't know about y'all, but I think I'm ready for a little water-walking myself. wink

  20.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/03/2005

    A great article from my brother in Christ, Rick.
    I wish we could all love and get along with one another in this life, all the time. Things would be so much simpler. Fortunatly, our Father in Heaven has prepared a place where only God's love will abide and His children will be happy forevermore. PRAISE GOD! Remember, God said in His word that His children would suffer persecutions. However, we must continue to fight the good fight until God calls us home. To all of my brothers and sisters in Christ...Keep on the Firing Line!!!To my dear friend Rick...I love ya darlin'!!!

  21.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/03/2005

    Elaine Harcourt's avatar A great article, Rick. Thanks for your insightful writing. Hope those who need to read it do just that.

    God is good all the time & all the time God is good. 

    Elaine Harcourt

  22.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/03/2005

    let us always rember our genere is more ministry than industry
    as in many churches there are those who lose
    sight on the reason we serve and look to whos in the limelight who gets to be seen more and who gets paid more
    but when we sing at a little country church somewhere and see some poor old saint who lost a loved moved to tears beciuse of a song we sing about heaven or hope
    or if we see one make theyre way to the altar
    after being convicted through the holy spirit ministered by some seed weve sown
    thats means more than a number one song or a ten thousand dollar royalty check
    let us never forget that
    james metcalf
    wjfj radio
    columbus nc

  23.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/03/2005

    Hi Rick-

    Another fairly masterful job of striking the nail directly on the head. You have truly said alot. I found it fascinating that my years-long friend Duane Nicholson, was one of the very first to respond. Others who have responded, have referred to the testimony and impact that the Couriers had, as tremendously positive impact, on SGM. Your article, while it is true of others, would never have been true in ANY way of the Couriers.

    And why is that? Let's get back to your "piece of the pie" illustration, and look at it from a slightly different angle. What makes a truly great pie? Literally, how excellent the fruit is. While, as Christians, we are not called to be the final judges of our brothers and sisters, we are told to be "fruit inspectors".

    IMHO- much of what is the truth behind your words may be related directly to the lack of fruit in the lives of some of these entertainers, and others who have a direct impact on this industry.

    This may be harsh; it may result in alot of angry responses, but some of the folks in this business today do not live what they sing, or what they promote. And this is truly a sad phenomenon.

    Keep up the good work. And I need to talk to you anyway...get in touch when you have a minute.

  24.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/03/2005

    I loved The Couriers and find it sad. I was in concert recently and a well known artist was really rude to me. I remained calm at the tape table. They continued talking to another well known artist. The artist even told the guy"You can help her she has been waiting" He waved his hand in the air like she can doesnt matter. My heart was broken. I was crushed.I paid good money to see them. I felt so low and little. I find it hard to hear this quartet on my radio and not wonder what they are like inside the bus. I love Southen Gospel music. I pray for all of the groups. Even the rude mean ones.grin

    Sue

  25.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/04/2005

    Rick, another great group about sharing the pie, or even bringing another pie to the table is the Lesters from St Louis, MO. For years they have helped young up and coming groups, adn been an encouragement to everyone in the business. Jim

  26.    Keith Prater ~ 05/04/2005

    This problem is not unique to Southern Gospel music. All of the music industry is controlled by five or six large media conglomerates, and you have the play the game their way or not play at all. These media giants not only produce the vast majority of commercial music, they also own a large segment of the radio and television industry. Most of the Contemporary Christian music industry is owned by these conglomerates. Southern Gospel music is still largely independent. But SG is trying to be like the giants and that is why there is so much trouble.

    But it does not have to be that way. With the advancement of digital technology and computers, music can be created, recorded, manufactured and distributed relatively cheaply without touching the industry's product stream. Communication and marketing are also available now, more than ever, to the average person. So, we no longer have to use the industry's methods to produce our songs and get them into the hands of the listener.

    So what does this have to do with the subject at hand? The entertainment industry captures its' artists by using the "you can be an idol, we can make you rich" mentality. It's this same mentality that causes the SG labels to abuse their artists, but also keeps the artists coming back for more. If we as artists and musicians can lose this "starry-eyed" mentality, we won't be looking to the record companies to make us rich quick. We will not be looking to the industry to make us stars. We will not look to the powers that be to tell us what style of music or type of lyric we will sing.

    Instead, we would look to God to help us create original and good music. We would find new and creative ways to produce and market what God has given us. We would free ourselves from industry ways that only stifle and destroy what we do.

    So, what are we as artists going to do? Are we going to continue to try getting into an industry that does not want us and will only destroy us, or will we allow God to help us create our own place and be blessed?

  27.    John Lanier ~ 05/05/2005

    Good googily goo! (LOL)

    Rick, dude, you are my hero!

  28.    Young Harmony ~ 05/05/2005

    RICK! I have never been more honored to be your friend! YOU ROCK! Thank you for inviting us to bring our own pie and come to your buffet and SHARE! your phrases were so funny - poly king!
    Your friend
    Johnathan

  29.    Jennifer McCallister ~ 05/05/2005

    I agree, Rick!
    Let's leave the table, and get out into the "fields which are white unto harvest."
    The One Who multiplied the loaves and fishes will provide for us in abundance!
    Instead of fighting over the last "piece of pie", let's work together to feed a world that is starving for the gospel in song!

  30.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/05/2005

    Rick
    Very great article. Sad thing but true. How come we all can not get along? Why so many conflicts? I can sum it up in a couple words "PRIDE" and a "lack of good honest communication". People tend to run in their own circles and forget those other people. In the industry as well as life in general people tend to shun and ignore those that make mistakes. Is that a Christian way of acting? What would Jesus do?

    Holly

  31.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    WOW- Rick I agree whole hearted. I get literally ill at how jealous of others I use to be. I left gospel music. I took my calling into my home church. I couldn't handle the ridicule from the major artist and churches. I was tired of the political circle.I seemed to be fighting to get in the click. Not fighting to save souls. What a sad place for us to be. I hate to admit, I too was a jealous, envies artist. But, PRAISE the LORD not anymore. I may be a little artist. But, I am big to my GOD.

    In His Service
    Tracy K Bryant

  32.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Rick,
    I'm glad to see you're back!! Great article! Things like this need to be said and I'm
    grateful that you have the courage to say it.
    It's our job as a society to uplift and
    encourage these artists.

  33.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Glad to see you back???????? Where did he go? Rick has been here all along.

  34.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    the groups are little for a reason i get tired paying to see a concert and going thrugh an hour of howling self procclammed singers for Christ they are small time for a reason they cant sing i dont pay my money to see them I DONT peole that start the concerts coat tailers if God has called them to sing call him back and ask him to provide you talent and your own church to sing in i would pay more for them not to be apart of the singing so the new groups should stop complaning Rick i bought my ticket for Dixie Melody Boys not you the fan should be complaning your taking up our time and singing on our money new groups stay in your own church and let the professonals travel
    In Christ
    Carla

  35.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME- I am not being ugly but everyone started some where. Those opening acts use to be the Crabb Family,Hinsons, Goodmans. You seem angry. So do you determine whats professional for your church? Do you determine what the promoter adds to his dates? And calling new artist little is flat out rude!

    Dale

  36.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Carla, Dear,
    Could you rephrase that paragraph? It's so discombobulated that trying to read it makes my brain hurt. Am I understanding that all "part-time" groups are to sit down and be quiet so that the other "full-time" groups can sing? I don't completely disagree with you but there are still many fine groups that are out there singing and ministering to people that also hold down full time jobs. My "part time" group has shared the stage with many full time groups Gold City, Mark Trammell Trio, Danny Funderburk and Mercy's way, The Hoppers...........Always we have held our own and been sincerely complimented by those groups.
    Now I said all that to say this. Just because a group has a bus and runs up and down the roads does'nt mean they are better than everyone who rides around in a van with a trailer.

    Brian

  37.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Thanks for gettin my back dale!

  38.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    i guess its you Brian cause i can read just find i am sure the groups you opened for would have loved for you to have bought a ticket and listneed to them sing instead they had to wait and listneed to you i have watched the professonal groups looking at each other and begging for you all to just stop singing and let the ticket people hear what they came to hear maybe they dont tell you but if you would watch the crowd you would know they would like for you to sit down and let the ticketed people sing

  39.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Ms. Bryant,
    Honestly, I see clearly what Brian is trying to say. I am not sure if I need a dictionary or knowledge of Braille to read your post.They are discombobulated. But, I do get the jest of your post. I for one have met and enjoyed a ton of opening artist concerts and projects. I remember a guy and his family coming to our church in Lexington,KY, he was passing through and needed a Sunday morning gig. That man opened for our featured group that morning. You would know this little opening act as Bill Gaither now.So, opening acts and new artist can and do make a difference.

    Dale

  40.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Brian- I have your back buddy. And , I am sure your group did a fantastic job.

    Dale

  41.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Go Rick, you could not be more correct on this one! Is inviting more people into our "family" what we are Called and Commissioned to do as Christians, or are we called to do whatever it takes to be number one and forget about anyone else. No we are supposed to bring in as many souls as we can. If we fight and do what we can to keep others from bringing in the souls are we not defeating the purpose. After all this is Gospel music which purpose is spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ, or have we forgotten that? Why don't we unite and support everyone who is doing work for the Kingdom!

  42.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/06/2005

    Carla
    Does it take a big bus,name or production for the Holy Spirit to use someone???????? I totally disagree with you. God uses us all. My job with USPS, I talk to folks all day that need to hear about Jesus.
    Praise the new groups, OLD groups, deceased groups! And those that help others without a singing voice
    Bob Kirkpatrick

  43.    Cathy Colllins ~ 05/06/2005

    Rick, this is another thought provoking article. I wish everyone who is in the industry in any way would stop and examine the motives when we start chopping at each group, artist, record company, promoter and anyone who is trying to accomplish something for the Lord. It is so easy to be drug in to these damaging conversations and then at the end, wonder, why did I say anything. If we would only support each other and not put down people who are doing something a little different. I think a successful person is one who is not afraid to take chances and think out of the box. I would hope and pray that we will one day all come together in one mind and one accord so that Gospel Music can survive. We seem to become professional critics when we are involved very long. It's almost like it's contagious. That's when we start losing our vision and forget why we are doing what we are doing. We are all in this together... Great article...Cathy Collins

  44.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/08/2005

    Who dropped a bomb??????? How can people be so mean? Do you really think people are a waste of time? I salute all of the artist that take the time and minister . From what I have learned its a hard job. I wish someone would write a story about road life. For real.Not the fluff version. Real road life.Anyone wanna share. I know it must be hard.

    Perry Starnes

  45.    Donna Strong ~ 05/09/2005

    Rick,
    As always, right on the money! Unfortunately, this attitude is also prevelant among the local and regional artists. For example, other artists tend to ask us quite often, "So, are you staying busy?" Honestly, I don't know WHY they ask that. I don't ever think to ask others that question. I guess I assume that if they're out their ministering for the Lord, He'll open the doors necessary for them to continue. But, when we answer, "Yes," it seems that you can feel the jealousy from them.
    I remember a few years ago when THE HOSKINS FAMILY became a name known to more folks outside our Ohio area. Now, I've known the family since Angie was probably 10 years old and singing in her grandpa's church. When they began their fulltime ministry and started receiving some noteriety, I was thrilled to see it happen to someone I personally knew. I was happy for them. But, not so with many in this area. It simply was one thing: JEALOUSY! And, if I'm not mistaken, jealousy is something on which the Lord frowns.
    We've also been experiencing some accolades lately with our own ministry. We've been singing 23 years now and in 2004 and 2005, we were honored to have been nominated in the Top 10 for Duet of the Year in the Diamond Awards. I remember when some area artists whom we known for years heard about it, their immediate response was, "Well, how'd YOU get nominated for that?" I honestly felt like saying, "Well, thanks a lot!" Once again, something good happened to someone else and they got all out of sorts. I'm sorry but I simply DO NOT understand this type of attitude. After all, we're not even supposed to worry about earthly treasures ... isn't our goal trying to reach others about Jesus and letting them know they can have an eternal home with him? Quite honestly, if someone is SO concerned about their earthly wealth and fame, I have to question whether they should stay in the ministry. Now that may sound harsh, but if they can't see the error of their ways, their continuing to "minister" only puts a bad light on the industry as a whole. And I can GUARANTEE that the world sees this! Of course, the ultimate solution is for them to realize their misguidings and repent. And, none of us is above failing. But let's not all wear our feelings on our shoulders and think we're so "high and mighty" (taking a term from my parents) that we can't allow God to let us see our faults and make amends when needed.
    I'd like to close (sorry so long ... my husband's on a business trip and I'm LONGING for adult conversation!) with the chorus to a song I wrote called "Willing":

    "Willing to do whatever you ask,
    Trusting you'll enable me for such a task;
    Looking to YOU and NOT THE ISSUES AROUND ME,
    Willing to work for you, faithfully."

    Let's all try to strive to do that and then we won't have to worry about such issues.

    Donna Strong
    HEARTS OF FAITH

  46.    Keith Prater ~ 05/09/2005

    Many of the responses here seem to both miss the point and prove the point of this article at the same time. It seems to me that Rick is talking about bypassing the established industry practices that are failing us, and creating for ourselves new ways of doing things, outside the industry establishment, that may revitalize Southern Gospel music. Yet many of the respondants have descended into the petty bickering about the value of full-time or part-time artists, and the discussion of awards and jealousies -- factionalism that are all part of the industry establishment that is bringing the genre down.

    The apostle Paul said that those who had become factional were mere babes and needed to grow up. Perhaps when we grow up, we will learn that there are better ways of doing things than what the industry establishment has presented to us. It is time to press toward a higher mark, one that focuses on producing high-quality music and inspiring lyrics for the enjoyment and edification of Christians and sinners, rather than on the low road of record sales, bookings, radio airplay, or who's full time or part time. If we focus on the higher things, this other stuff will come as a result.

  47.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/09/2005

    My mom was just voicing her opinion. I enjoy all of the artist. I think what she is trying to say. Why do promoters and churches book dates, pull in crowds for certain artist, then allow the church singers or locals to jump on the program. It really is time consuming, and the people didnt pay to see the locals. If part time groups are looking for dates.Get their own. Not on paid events. If you arent good enough to be paid. Dont be on the program.

    Tracy

  48.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/09/2005

    Keith, That post made 0 sense.

    Tracy

  49.    Donna Strong ~ 05/09/2005

    Remind me to never invite Carla to one of OUR concerts ... you know, us "little" guys (or, I should say, gals). WOAH ... I'm one who knows for certain that many artists are not that great in vocals and ability (we've sung with many in the past) ... and, there are even some who are national, full-time artists who fit this category ... as beauty is in the "eye" of the beholder, I think it is also in the "ear" of the concert-goer. I for one do NOT in the slightest enjoy bluegrass gospel ... but, you know what, I know a TON OF FOLKS who just LOVE that style of music. In my opinion, I don't think most of them can sing. Now, please ... I'm not in any way saying that to be mean. But it's just not MY style. I sense a HUGE bit of hatred in your e-mail and, quite frankly, it bothers me that someone who attends gospel music concerts would be that insensitive toward their fellow Christians trying to work for the Lord. And, by the way, you need to use punctuation and proper capitalization so that we can "read" your comments ~ not that it would help me agree with them.

    Donna Strong
    HEARTS OF FAITH

  50.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/09/2005

    Donna,
    I hope we never cross the path of Ms. Carla either. I think part time artist are just as important as the full time artist. Actually, there isnt any difference to God. If a promoter or pastor allows us to minister as an opening act-thats GREAT.

    Renee

  51.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/11/2005

    Great article, Rick. As a veteran of the SGM industry from way back in the 70's, who then went away for 25 years and is now back as an "outsider artist," it makes me realize how much things have changed while not really changing at all. Back in the day we had "Big" groups like the Blackwood Brothers, The Statesmen, The Oak Ridge Boys, Th Imperials, and then you had the part-time groups like the Scenicland Boys, The Kingsmen, the Inspirations to name a few. The "money machine" that kept the big groups in favor didn't have time for groups like the Kingsmen. Then the Ton Of Fun hit it big with the "Big and Live" album and the industry came-a-runnin'. So there is hope...

  52.    Jamie Rebekkah Carter ~ 05/11/2005

    Ok...my blood is boiling. Carla, maybe your going to the concert for the wrong reason....ever thought of that? If you want to hear all these "National Artist" then maybe GMT would be good for you...no wait that has local artist too..I guess that is a waste of time. One more thing and I hate to say this...But sometimes your local artist have more heart and are more humble due to the fact that the lime light hasn't fried their brains. And I'm not saying all National Artist have fired brains. But like the previous posts...Everyone starts somewhere...or no one would get anywhere at all! I can't believe that anyone would feel that way...but if our paths cross I pray I ride in on a BIG TOUR BUS with a HUGE sound System with a number on the charts!!!!!!!!

  53.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/11/2005

    Oh and one more thing~ THIS IS WHY WE ALL CAN'T GET ALONG! Christian Music has lost it's Christian ways and become 1st a business 2nd fame and fortune and 3rd how good we sound 4th "oh yeah, let's put Christ somewhere in it" Mentality. When It should be 1st Christ 2nd The people 3. The bussiness 4th how good we sound~

    That is my take on it.

  54.    Betty Tilley ~ 05/11/2005

    Jamie, You are 100% absolutely right!

  55.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/11/2005

    Ok, let me get this right. According to Jamies' post she is saying that ministry is more important that entertainment. Wow, I never thought of that before, what a concept! How good you sound comes before business, because if you don't sound good, then you don't have a business. That's if your seeking man's approval.

  56.    Keith Prater ~ 05/11/2005

    The old saying, "Can't see the forest for the trees," comes to mind when reading these posts. Actually, it is more like an army of ants destroying the picnic. We are so caught up in concert dates, album sales, awards, and who is full time or part time, we cannot see that there is probably a better way to do what we do. If the way things are now is generating so much strife and division; it isn't just peoples' hearts that need to change, we need to change the way we do this. We need to get out of the muck.

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  57.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/11/2005

    I am so glad that you wrote this. I have not only seen this in the Southern Gospel realm but others as well and it's sickening. I sang as a lead vocalist for Jesse Duplantis' praise team for 3 years until recently when I had to move but my first love has ALWAYS been southern gospel music. This issue was the one thing that "pushed" me away and sent me singing black gospel instead. I want to return to my roots (if I only knew of Southern Gospel groups in Louisiana that needed me). I wish everyone could see that we all have different anointings and God will use others to reach people we can't and use us to reach those that they can't. Why can't we just get the vision. The Word says without a vision His people perish. I would say there are alot of dried up "groups" out there about to fall off the vine..wake up!!!

  58.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/11/2005

    WOW, Jamie, your take on it is all wrong. There are thousands out there singing every weekend for all the right reasons. Your reaction to Carla was anything but Christian. Getting along with your response may be harder to do than getting along with Carla's comments.

    Val, what does sounding good have to do with man's approval. We should be sounding good because we are trying to give God our very best.

  59.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/12/2005

    Jim, I was being sarcastic. I understand what you are saying. What I was saying is that to get anywhere in this "business" you have to sound good. Personally, I would rather hear the little old church lady who can't sing her way out of a paper bag who is annointed in a powerful way than than to hear a dried up perfect quartet.

  60.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/12/2005

    Let me Clarify....I'm was referring to the Polyester suits way of thinking. And as far as my response being Christian...maybe we see things in a different light. I was not saying that "ALL" groups are out ther for the wromg reasons. Sure there are plenty of groups and soloist out there singing their hearts out for God not for the fame or money. I ARE ONE. I just thought it was pitiful to say that unknowns are a waste of time. And if you didn't have a contract or a bus etc. you wasn't worth hearing. The other post is my opinion of the "CASHVILLE~Southern Gospel" Lets face it..there are many promoters out there and record labels that don't care what you sound like as long as you place money in their hands. And Val I could careless of man's approval..they didn't call me ...God did. And let me add to that before everybody jumps on the wagon of "people have to like you before you get anywhere" That is true. People have to like youto purchase tickets to see you and buy your projects. But I don't think it should govern everything you do. You will never have 100% approval. When I wrote When It should be 1st Christ 2nd The people 3. The bussiness 4th how good we sound~ I place "people" 2nd meaning to reach out to people, try to be a blessing and help others find Christ. 3rd the business being that you have to have money to travel to make projects etc. 4th. To be appealing to people...People won't listen to someone that sounds bad or doesn't do their very best for God....And I can admit I might be seeing this totally wrong...but my concept being "one you never heard before"...well you said it I didn't. Now that was sarcastic. And probably not the best thing to say but I'm just calling it how I see it.

  61.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/12/2005

    Oh and Val..I whole heartly aggree with you comment "Personally, I would rather hear the little old church lady who can't sing her way out of a paper bag who is annointed in a powerful way than than to hear a dried up perfect quartet." I just think we had a miss understanding on the other topic? Because according to that comment we are on the same page. And I apologize for my "mean spirited" comments. I just get aggervated with the idea of people thinking "unknowns" are nothing and I feel like not only SG but all music genres like to see the "unknowns" coming with dreams and some money. That is all I was trying to say. And Again I apologize if I offended anyone.

  62.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/12/2005

    rebekka or val
    no one can say the quartets are dried up they have spirits of fire just like my church does.i read your letters val and rebekka must be singers i bet they never were on ticketed events the concerter has the right sto hear what they pay to here and if your not a ticketed performor you should listen to the old woman in your church that sings as good as you.stay in your church if you arent good enough to be paid and get ticketed concerts

  63.    Young Harmony ~ 05/12/2005

    As I have been reading some of the post, I felt very sad at the harshness of people. We are to be representing JESUS in all that we do, whether we are singing, talking, or even posting our thoughts on a chat board. I agree with many of the post, however we can say things in a more loving way and not so mean. I hope this helps redirect this post. Thanks Rick for helping remind us that we all of abilities to bring to the table and that we don�t have to do just like everyone else does. You have been a blessing and I am thankful that GOD has allowed us to work together. THANK YOU!

    Young Harmony, Inc.
    Johnathan & Ginger Bond

  64.    Donna Strong ~ 05/12/2005

    Amen Johnathon & Ginger!!! No matter what our calling to spread the gospel, we MUST do it in a Christ-like way. I must wonder what past experiences have caused so much pain for some that they must be so harsh and critical. I have a definite word of caution: NEVER, EVER look to man for confirmations or achievements in life. Look, however, to GOD for those "eternal" rewards and don't lose sight of the importance of spreading His GOOD NEWS to those who don't know Him. That is our primary objective in whatever ministry God places in our lives. We need to be doing it because He has been so gracious to each of us and for no other reason. And, we need to do our very best (which is going to be different for various people) because He gave His best for us. I've always been one in life (even when younger) to not worry about other people's view of me. I needed to please two people: God and myself. I always felt that I pleased God, I'd please myself as well. I've said this many times to my kids and I hope they'll be able to grow up knowing this is what can get you through those tough times in life. As a body of believers, we need to be lifting up each other and letting the world see the difference we have in our lives of something better than having to always be top dog in life. Our focus should be doing what God has called us to do, for Him and no one else. When we achieve that, we'll bless others and be blessed ourselves.

    Donna Strong
    HEARTS OF FAITH

  65.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Yes I have been part of a ticketed concert. As a matter of fact one was with the Sons Family, Mark Bishop and the Freemans.

    Johnathan & Ginger Bond
    I agree with you. I really take some people's comments personal and I should not let my feelings get so out of control. I think I need to go back and read Joyce Myers book about controling your feeling. lol. I felt really bad after I made that, what I called "mean spirited comment" and again I apologize. We are all entitled to our opinion so next time I will "cool" off before I say anything.

  66.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    This is crazy. Why would anyone wanna say such stuff? I agree with Rebekka 100% !!!!!!!!! This attitude is acting UNCHRISTIAN. Its not fair to say part time groups<or ticketed> LOL cannot sing in churches or share stages with the artist that"have arrived" How many part time groups out on the road see lives saved and changed? I would like to think, plenty! And God can and does use us all.I will pay to hear you Rebekka and Donna:-)

    Karen

  67.    Donna Strong ~ 05/13/2005

    Karen,
    Thanks! I'd LOVE for you to hear us some time. I don't know where you live, but you can visit our website (http://www.hearts-of-faith.com) and see our schedule ~ maybe we'll get a chance to meet face to face some time.
    For anyone who is in the SW Ohio area, we have the AWESOME privilege of opening for a remarkable group of guys, THE IMPERIALS. It'll be on July 23 in Hamilton, Ohio. Be sure to check our website for details.

    Donna Strong
    HEARTS OF FAITH

  68.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Ok- can anyone answer this Maybe Val,Donna or Jamie. Heck anyone. How many times have you been blessed by a local artist? Or blessed by the opening act for a gospel singing?

    Dale

  69.    Donna Strong ~ 05/13/2005

    Dale,
    I'm not quite sure how to take your question, whether it's really in all serious or not. But, I'll answer it anyway ... I have been blessed many times by local artists. The blessing comes from the quality of the artist; the heart of the artist; and the type of songs sung by the artist. There are times when an artist can sing in the utmost quality but won't touch my heart because I don't feel it from THEIR heart. Other times, someone who isn't quite as talented has blessed my heart more because of their sincerity. To me, it takes more than simply the talent to bless me.
    And I would like to make a MAJOR point here ... just because someone is awesomely talented, it does NOT mean that God wants that individual(s) to go full time or sing on a national level. There is a lady in our church (in fact, she is one of our worship leaders and I sing backup in her band) that is AWESOME, AWESOME and then AWESOME some more. But she has no desire to travel and sing. She feels her calling to the local church ... and it's in NO WAY because she couldn't travel and sing. She and her husband are empty-nesters and she would have nothing holding her back ... but it is NOT her calling. I think that we many times feel like because an artist is in the national spotlight and has all the "perks" of the industry (bus, chart songs, prestige), they're exactly where God wants them. Is it "possible" that some people just enjoy gospel music and WANT to travel and sing? I think Brian Free (an artist for whom we opened last year) would tell you that to be true. His testimony tells of being someone who knew of a head knowledge of Jesus and the Jesus about whom he sang, but he hadn't really made that choice of salvation. This was during his years with Gold City! Now, he blessed many people with his talent during that time! So I think we need to be VERY careful about assuming that those in the spotlight (at whatever level) are there because God has specifically put them there. Maybe they simply are choosing to be there.

  70.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Dale, I have seen many part time opening acts.I loved them. Sons Family, Rochesters, Hunts, Duvalls,Galloways, Melodyaires. The opening acts have just as much spirit and talent as the others some times. Send the opening acts to my church.

    Karen

  71.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    STOP missing the point here. Its not about what you can do or not do. What my Mom was trying to say We the fans should not be subject to sit and listen to the opening artist. If we paid to see Gold City. No one cares to hear them showcase their part time tape. And trust me the full time artist get sick of waiting on them to sing. They would like to get on the bus and be out of the church before 9 PM.

    Tracy

  72.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Tracy,
    You cannot be serious. No one person can dictate what a promoter or pastor decides to do with his service. If they invite an up and coming artist to be a part of a Gold City show, then that's not up to the ticket buyer.

    Just my lowly opinion

    Karen

  73.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Tracy, what you and your mother do NOT realize is that promoters don't just put opening acts on because they are nice guys. There is a reason. Many times those "opening" acts have provided half of the crowd there. If you bring the crowd, then you most certainly have a right to sing on the program.
    Many part time groups are the promoters, as is the case with my family group, and you can bet that if I am putting out the money to bring a group in, my group is going to sing on the program. The fact is that 90% of the audience does NOT share your opinion.
    Of course the solution to your mother's problem is to promote the concert herself. Take on the responsibility of having to pay thousands of dollars to artists, and then SHE can say who sings and who doesn't sing.
    I know it's been said on here before, but remember, Gold City was an opening act at one time.

  74.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Tracy, one last thought. You have really never worked with a professional group. Every pro group that I have ever worked with, and I've worked with a lot, quickly develope a comradery with opening groups and are ALWAYS very encouraging to them. It's not the Pro groups who do not want the opening acts on the stage. That opening act helps the crowd get settled down and into their seats, making them ready for the main group to come out.

  75.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Deon
    Are you saying YOU have never been to a concert and wished the opening act would go home? Some times they go for over an hour with songs we have never heard. They may be hits to them.We dont care to hear them.

    Tracy

  76.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!! DEON- I for one enjoy the opening acts. And if they knew the process.Your right they would understand the opening acts job.And let them spend 10,000 to put a show on with only one artist. And they can hear the complaints of folks feeling they didnt get their moneys worth.

    I would certainly feel taken........

  77.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Jamie,
    I think Young Harmony was speaking about Tracy and Carla. Not you. What you had to say was very true.
    Dale

  78.    Chris D. Unthank ~ 05/13/2005

    Chris D. Unthank's avatar Tracy,

    In the case that you mention - that's the promoter's fault. I know that we have done concerts were we wished the opening act would get off the stage and the situation would have been remedied had the promoter actually put his foot down and said "15 minutes only".

    It is very beneficial to have that opening act - but only when the promoter is responsible enough to put a cap on their performance.

  79.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/13/2005

    Tracy, of course there have been cases of abuse, but they are not the norm. Sometimes the promters brother-in-law gets to sing, siply because he's the promoters brother-in-law, but that is not the way it is 90% of the time.
    So to answer your question, yes, there have been times when I wished the opening act would just get off the stage, but there have been just as many times that I wished that one of the headline groups would get off the stage so I could hear the group that I went to the concert to see. Maybe we could just tell the promoter which headline groups to bring in also. That makes just about as much sense as trying to tell a promoter to quit using opening groups. Now that I think about it, there have been opening groups who were better than some of the headline groups on the program.
    Now as to the opening group taking too long on stage, well, I can just say that they would only do it once at my concerts, then they wouldn't be invited back. Much the same way that headline groups who go way over on their time do not get invited back to my concerts. Then again, maybe Rick could cover that on one of his upcoming articles.

  80.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/14/2005

    Chris
    What then can be done to keep bad singers off the shows? I hear them on our radio station too? Even 15 min oh these folks is too much!

    Tracy

  81.    Betty ~ 05/14/2005

    Blessing Tracy, People see things and hear things diffently. There is some unknown artist that can sing circles around some of the biggest national groups. I have a freind in radio. The other day I was talking to him about a certain song on the radio by a group that is known national. I was telling him how I did not like the persons voice in that particular song. It had a great message, but in my opinion only, I did not think it sounded that good at all. My DJ friend could not believe that I did not like it, because he thinks this person has a great lead voice. So see everyone does not feel the same way about a singer. You may really love to hear someone that another person would not pay to see. Even if a person sounds bad to me or your, to someone they may sound great. I have found out the hard way not to be to critical to singers because it comes back on you.

  82.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/14/2005

    NQC cut all women from performing. I have always loved hearing the women. I hate to see them do this. Its not fair. I noticed several of the women like Betty, Jamie and Donna are artist. Have you been cut from singing at National Qt Convention? And what can be done to see the women overcome such opposition. Forget the pie. Think of who probably baked it. A women. Who probably washed and packed the clothes. A women. Who made sure the bills were paid. A women. Who sewed the flag. A woman. Why now are we being persecuted again by an entire community.

    ~Joy

  83.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/14/2005

    Women have not been banned from the NQC stage. Most artists performing are mixed groups - and the Ruppes (an all female trio) are scheduled to perform on Friday evening of the NQC.

  84.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Donna Strong wrote"I for one do NOT in the slightest enjoy bluegrass gospel ... but, you know what, I know a TON OF FOLKS who just LOVE that style of music. In my opinion, I don't think most of them can sing. "


    And in my observations, I find that most SGM artists can only play one instrument.....a cd player. And without the help of stacks...many non instrument playing SGM artists would be going to T Ball games on weekends.

  85.    Donna Strong ~ 05/15/2005

    Scott,
    What in the world does your comment even have to do with my previous comment??? It's like taking a Bible verse out of context. I was saying that "bluegrass gospel music" isn't my style but that it blesses others ... in relationship to the fact that regional artists can bless people just as much as national artists. I'm not even sure how your comment is related.
    But, since you bring it up, there are a huge number of SG artists who use tracks ~ versus bluegrass groups having live music. But, many times (as was the case with our ministry), we couldn't find musicians who were dedicated and committed enough! They'd simply not show up for concerts without so much as a telephone call. If someone were to do that in the business world, they wouldn't have their job too long! So, we went to tracks. They're always there; always on key; and never complain about "We're going too much!" or "That's all we got in the offering?". Ministry is a major commitment ~ whether with tracks or a live band ~ no matter what the style.

  86.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Donna,
    What about the Isaacs,Crabb Family,Lewis Family, Jeff and Sheri Easter,Easter Brothers,Ricky Scaggs,Alison Krauss-Shall I go on.... Oh Brother- sold 12 million copies. Somebody must think they can sing. It has sold better than Southern or CCM.Actually it has sold better than any gospel format.

    Renee

  87.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    CRABB FAMILY bluegrass-They are barely gospel. Come on Renee.

    Bob

  88.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    ** Edited by Administration for rumor, gossip and innuendo.

  89.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Whats to say Chris doesnt have the facts??

  90.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Saying you know someone who knows someone is NOT facts. It's heresay. And again, I repeat, the Ruppes are singing on Friday night of the NQC this year...

    http://natqc.com/nschedule3.htm

    See for yourself.

    Bob wrote:
    "CRABB FAMILY bluegrass-They are barely gospel. Come on Renee."

    I guess someone ought to tell them then, cause if they aren't gospel then why are the singing songs like "He Came Looking for Me", "Through the Fire", "The Cross", "Please Forgive Me", "Sacrifice of Praise", and more at their concerts?

  91.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    If Crabb Family only played those songs.IT WOULD BE different. But they put those out to radio.But the fans buy the CD.And then we hear all the junk. And in concert. Its so loud you cannot worship. Their hair.JEEZ Come on this is like having KISS sing country.

    Bob

  92.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Chris,
    Then why were they banned last year? And why only one this year? Raises the brow a bit.

    ~Joy

  93.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Bob, I have been to a LOT of Crabb Family concerts in my day and have NEVER seen them sing something that is NOT gospel. If you have, I would like some examples - as well as when and where the event took place.

    As far as volume and hair styles - point me to a place in the bible that says anywhere whether than determines whether something is "Gospel" or not.

    If you don't like them - fine. That's one thing, bit to say they aren't gospel because YOU don't like them - well that's just plain dumb.

  94.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    "Chris,
    Then why were they banned last year? And why only one this year? Raises the brow a bit.

    ~Joy"

    I don't know why they didn't appear on the mainstage last year. They did howerver appear on an a big afternoon showcase sponsored by the NQC. Any questions you have about that need to be directed to them. I've only provided you the facts to disprove your point.

  95.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    OH heavens. Have you listened to their last CD. its bi-polar. Do they even know where they wanna go. The Bible speaks of looking the part and being a servant,not an idol.

    Bob

  96.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Bob, all you are doing is proving that you have never, NEVER, seen or heard the Crabb Family. It's also pretty clear that you are merely trying to spread hatred for a very respected family in SGM. Godliness and righteousness are not in clothing or hairstyles. That's called legalism. I have listened to the new Crabb Family CD, but it's apparent that you haven't.
    OH, and if you think that the Crabb Family looks like KISS, then I KNOW that you never saw KISS either.

  97.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    AMEN- Deon-

    Come on Bob- The Crabb Family is the greatest thing going for gospel music. I kinda wish I had enough hair to do that with grin

    Dale Embry

  98.    Donna Strong ~ 05/15/2005

    Renee,
    If you'll read my post, I said that "I" do not like bluegrass gospel. I believe that I even used the phrase, "in my opinion." There are many, many folks (as I said in my post) who just LOVE bluegrass ... and I'm glad those artists are there to provide them what they love. And, just for the record, I do like to hear most of those you mention sing. But I was stating MY opinion, not a fact.
    Also, someone asked earlier about women on the NQC stage. I've never been asked to sing on the main stage at NQC, although my sister and I have sung at some of the weekly showcases (although not those endorsed by NQC). However, we feel very privileged that we've been asked to sing at the upcoming SGM Fan Fair in Chattanooga, TN in August. We'll be part of Monday's matinee.

  99.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    Donna,
    I am not so sure the Fan Fair is going to be much more than a small showcase. I am just saying -many Bluegass artist can sing.

    Renee

  100.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 05/15/2005

    About the Crabb Family- they are awesome. They sing gospel music.Crabb style.I think more people like them than not. Its obvious 100,000 unit CDs ha

    Renee



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